Wednesday, September 06, 2006

Problems and Frustrations

I am going to begin with the different problems and frustrations which I have been experiencing with the course design.

Most of the problems which the students have been having are concerning technology. Unfortunately, students are not too adept at changing their computer setting so that everything works exactly as it should with Vista. Even when different strategies are suggested, students seem not to be able to "fix" their computers so that they minimize their problems

I know some students do not have much control. They have checked out laptops from school and they need to submit a work order to get anything changed or installed on the computers. The work orders take about 2 weeks to get completed. This delay is a real frustration for students.

Many are wising up and using the "technology issues" as reasons to not meet deadlines. I have been flexible with those students who I know are consistenly having the same issues because of their computers. But there is not way to make one student accountable and not another. Also, because the students share the computers in the lab, I have no idea who exactly is using the "broken" computer.

It is making life much harder for me. I have to keep track of where students turn in assignments. I have asked students to use email as a backup when something happens with the system. It is not being used as much this week as it has in the previous two but it still makes it confusing for me and for the students to keep track of where they submitted their materials.

I'm hoping a couple more weeks and most of these problems will be solved.

The problems that the high school students are having with the computers really makes me worry that the students in the full online class will have similar difficulties. The DE director said that the course has the technology specifications listed, so students should be held accountable. Still, the situation makes me worry.

Having the two sites, the external content site and the Vista submission site, has also caused complication. I decided to keep instructions on the external site but in an effort to keep it simple, I wonder if the instructions should not be migrated back into Vista. I worry though that if I do that, then the external site will become useless. It was useful when the system was not working, but repeating information in the sites seems inefficient and confusing for students.

I have decided to keep most of the content in the external site and point the students to the relevant pages for each particular activity. I will try that for this unit and see how it works out.

After looking at the organization of assignments in the Vista site, I had to reconsider how I pointed to those assignments in the external site. I decided on a numerical list and similar titles to guide the student from one activity to another.

The high school students seem to getting used to the rhythm of the course. Because we meet everyday, designing the course has been quite a feat. I have to work at redesigning both the Vista and the external site so that both are consistent and up-to-date. As I decide on the specific format, this part of the workload should decrease.

All these design and logistical issues have left me little time to concentrate on the development of the videos for instruction. I am keenly aware that I do much of the instruction via video for the high school classes and am considering how that instruction will be translated for the full online class.

I am maintaining a log of the lessons which I present to the students, both those that are planned and those which arise from student confusion. I realize that much of the instruction will be difficult to translate to the distance students. The main difficulty, of course, comes from the time-intensive activity needed to create the instruction in text, video or audio format.

Also, since I have no control over whether a student actually views an instructional video, I am not sure how valuable those that I have produced have been to the students.

I sent out an email asking for feedback but received very little since it was not a requirement. I am creating a survey in vista and all students will have to complete it. Since it will be done during class and I think students will feel self-conscious, I am not sure how valid the information will be. Still, I am sure I will get some preliminary information about the videos from the survey.

My online class began yesterday and I am worried that not all students have logged in to the class. I have sent multiple emails giving them information about the course login page and external course site. Of course, they may have gone to the external site but I have no way to keep track of that. The only thing I can keep track of is if they log in to the Vista site.

I know it is a little early to get worried. One student commented that she is not used to working in an online class which has deadlines. I am not sure exactly what she means since all of the classes which I have found do use deadlines. I did email the students today asking them if they had questions or problems and reinterating the login information. I figure the next step will be to telephone them if they have not loggin in within the next couple of days. Have to seek some feedback on this one.

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  1. September 7th chat:


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    Janie Santoy: HI!
    Janie Santoy: How are you doing today?
    Rich Rice: morning, well thanks
    Rich Rice: so, how's your work going? I just mailed you a book.
    Rich Rice: might get there tomorrow or Mondya.
    Janie Santoy: well, I'm not having any dull moments; I can tell you that
    Janie Santoy: btw I forgot about the grant writing book; still need it?
    Rich Rice: good; dull moments are unbearable.
    Rich Rice: nope, found what I need there, thanks.
    Janie Santoy: ok, good. I really hate lending out my books. Don't know how you do it...
    Rich Rice: I've found that if I need a book, I can buy it again.
    Rich Rice: I'm in a position now to spread the wealth a little.
    Rich Rice:
    Janie Santoy: need some feedback, recommendations
    Janie Santoy: students in online class beginning this week
    Janie Santoy: having problems with logins and access as expected
    Janie Santoy: but most not contacting me
    Janie Santoy: I have sent several emails, most recent one yesterday
    Rich Rice: well, paintasking, but one strategy is phone calls
    Janie Santoy: I am telephoning them today...
    Rich Rice: check off each one as they get in, etc.
    Janie Santoy: did one already
    Rich Rice: yeah; it does help to make calss--students appreciate that, and then they think "wow, this is really important"
    Rich Rice: and, they're sometimes a little embarrassed that you've had to call
    Rich Rice: so they try a little harder
    Janie Santoy: Well I have seven out of 20
    Janie Santoy: so I think I should try something
    Rich Rice: 7 who need calls?
    Janie Santoy: yes
    Rich Rice: yeah, I'd say that's about right with new software
    Rich Rice: another thing is mandate replies in email
    Rich Rice: maybe tie them to attendence...
    Rich Rice: maybe say "I reply to email within 2 business day, and I expect students to reply to my messages within 2 days as well.
    Rich Rice: dunno, what do you think>?
    Janie Santoy: I think I will try the phone calls and then see what develops
    Janie Santoy: another thing is deadlines
    Janie Santoy: I think we spoke about this before
    Janie Santoy: but the ITV classes are very different
    Janie Santoy: we meet every day
    Janie Santoy: very intense for them and for me
    Janie Santoy: but the plan I've set up to take them through the process of essay writing
    Janie Santoy: works with all those meetings
    Janie Santoy: but will probably have to change that for online
    Rich Rice: nods; yes, every day would be hard to expect for students online
    Janie Santoy: I have material due 2-3 times a week
    Janie Santoy: is that reasonable
    Janie Santoy: shoudl I scale it down to once a week?
    Rich Rice: 2-3 for online?
    Janie Santoy: yes
    Rich Rice: we typically do 3 in our program, but they also meet once a week and go over it
    Rich Rice: I think two is reasonable
    Rich Rice: but, make them the same days every week if possible
    Rich Rice: if there's something due every W and Su, for instance, routine develops
    Rich Rice: and that's half the battle
    Janie Santoy: right, consistency helps
    Rich Rice: could go with 3 per week, but that would be pressing it. Still, could work.
    Rich Rice: Axia College (U Phoenix) does 2
    Janie Santoy: one student mentioned she wasn't used to deadlines in online classes
    Janie Santoy: that seems hard to believe...
    Janie Santoy: do any work that way
    Rich Rice: yeah, that seems bogus
    Rich Rice: must have assignments
    Rich Rice: must have deadlines
    Janie Santoy: ok, so I have to go back and build consistency in the deadlines
    Janie Santoy: don't think I have that
    Rich Rice: makes it easier for you, too
    Janie Santoy: and I'll cut back to 2
    Janie Santoy: yes, I can see how that works
    Janie Santoy: keeping up with the grading inthe ITV classes has been difficult
    Rich Rice: every day; yikes
    Rich Rice: how long?
    Rich Rice: 9 weeks?
    Janie Santoy: haven't figured out the best wayt o use the grading tool yet
    Janie Santoy: 9 weeks, yes
    Rich Rice: nods
    Rich Rice: yeah, that's pretty intense
    Janie Santoy: I have to go back and build each formula every time I add an assignment
    Janie Santoy: or
    Rich Rice: yikes
    Janie Santoy: have students see a very low grade
    Rich Rice: which they'll scream about
    Janie Santoy: averages out no grades as zeros
    Janie Santoy: yup
    Rich Rice: so, this is because you haven't entered them in already for the entire course?
    Janie Santoy: right
    Janie Santoy: I have know each one, how much it is worth and then build the formula
    Rich Rice: yeah, hard to plan ahead, but it would probably go more smoothly if you had them all in--if possible
    Janie Santoy: the formula has to be built a certain way for it to work
    Janie Santoy: haven't figured out the best way
    Rich Rice: ah
    Janie Santoy: have to ask others to see how they are doing it
    Rich Rice: sorry, unfamiliar with it
    Rich Rice: oh, this is probably somehting you're doing...
    Rich Rice: but use lots of positive feedback publically
    Rich Rice: that is, "Thanks, Clare, for replying so quickly to your message."
    Rich Rice: stuff like that
    Rich Rice: works wonders
    Janie Santoy: I have posted up the rest of my units
    Janie Santoy: in the blog
    Janie Santoy: and some updates
    Rich Rice: k, just today?
    Janie Santoy: have not had much tiem to work on videos
    Janie Santoy: last night
    Rich Rice: k. I'll take a look today.
    Rich Rice: can't access now for some reason
    Janie Santoy: I worked on one which I have questions about
    Janie Santoy: I downloaded a Purdue OWL powerpoint a while back, last year I think
    Rich Rice: ah, http://jsantoy.blogspot.com/ just came up
    Rich Rice: strange
    Rich Rice: took about a min
    Janie Santoy: and I've used it for a video
    Janie Santoy: but not sure about rights issues
    Janie Santoy: I also linked to their site
    Janie Santoy: directly for students to view ppt
    Rich Rice: those handouts are fair use, but they like references (links, like you did)
    Janie Santoy: but thought the video would be different
    Janie Santoy: how does that work
    Janie Santoy: I did not alter the presentation, used their notes, etc.
    Rich Rice: same, really; but, you might email Tammy Conard-Salvo (director of Purdue's OWL, and former TTU grad student)
    Janie Santoy: but did make it a video
    Rich Rice: same though, really
    Rich Rice: yeah, they won't care
    Rich Rice: just include the reference URL
    Janie Santoy: does a streaming video count as a "broadcast"
    Rich Rice: depends; it is a broadcast, but not one for money or "scheduled"
    Rich Rice: plus, you're doing it for educational purposes
    Rich Rice: falls under fair use
    Janie Santoy: ok, just wanted to make sure
    Rich Rice: nods
    Rich Rice: I'm sure Tammy would appreciate seeing innovative uses of their handouts though
    Rich Rice: so, feel free to email her
    Janie Santoy: I will
    Rich Rice: http://owl.english.purdue.edu/writinglab/email/asstdir/
    Rich Rice: http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~tcsalvo/
    Rich Rice: shall we talk about something in your blog?
    Janie Santoy: anything specific?
    Rich Rice: (you've been busy there!)
    Janie Santoy: feeling guilty about not keeping updated
    Janie Santoy: know I will forget if I dont' document
    Rich Rice: any problems/frustrations in addition to those we've talked about?
    Rich Rice: nods
    Janie Santoy: but having trouble keeping up
    Janie Santoy: no more of the same
    Rich Rice: have you visited the sites where the students are?
    Rich Rice: the hs students
    Janie Santoy: no
    Janie Santoy: and don't want to
    Janie Santoy: that is before you suggest it
    Rich Rice:
    Rich Rice: I've always found that helpful, for myself, to see and test their technology.
    Rich Rice: could have surveys regarding the videos... if you're concerned they're not watching
    Rich Rice: or, better yet, at the end...
    Rich Rice: put a "email me 3 things you learned from this vid you didn't know"
    Rich Rice: if they don't email, then they haven't watched
    Janie Santoy: hmm...hadn't thought of that
    Janie Santoy: require something...
    Rich Rice: nods
    Janie Santoy: yes, students seem to need that...
    Rich Rice: like, login... do a blog entry... something
    Rich Rice: yeah, hs students more so than others
    Janie Santoy: btw, how can I add a pause button to the videos
    Janie Santoy: when I create them I don't see an option
    Janie Santoy: just a play and stop
    Rich Rice: students should be able to either hit spacebar to pause, or right-click pause...
    Rich Rice: or hit play again
    Janie Santoy: right click pauses the video?
    Rich Rice: when it's playing and you hit play that pauses, I believe
    Janie Santoy: I've tried and it just replays
    Rich Rice: right click > pause (there should be some option).
    Rich Rice: which vid?
    Rich Rice: URL?
    Rich Rice: man, something's up with my Internet methinks. Can't get into the streaming server now
    Rich Rice: yeah, looks like it's down
    Rich Rice: oh, nevermind
    Rich Rice: needed vpn
    Rich Rice: so, when I look at media.english.ttu.edu/graduate/ssantoy/AnnotatedBibliography.wmv
    Janie Santoy: right how can I pause that
    Rich Rice: ctrl-p
    Rich Rice: when the vid is the active window
    Janie Santoy: but how do students know that
    Rich Rice: or Play > Pause
    Janie Santoy: I didn't
    Janie Santoy: but the pause button sometimes doesn't show
    Rich Rice: Yeah, I suppose if it's important, you'll have to tell them. If in Windows Media Player, the Play turns to a II pause button
    Janie Santoy: It didn't when I was showing it to them
    Janie Santoy: the play was greyed out
    Janie Santoy: no pause button
    Rich Rice: was the vid embedded in a page?
    Janie Santoy: so was it the computer
    Janie Santoy: no I've done them all the same
    Rich Rice: might make sure computer has version 10...
    Rich Rice: so, it opens in media player?
    Rich Rice: maybe Play > Pause or ctrl-p the best bet
    Janie Santoy: well, that answers one of my questions
    Rich Rice: or right click > pause
    Rich Rice: nice vid, btw, this annotated one
    Rich Rice: clear
    Rich Rice: you're getting good
    Janie Santoy: I don't get a right click > pause
    Rich Rice: you're trying to right-click on the screen?
    Janie Santoy: I shouldn't?
    Rich Rice: you should
    Rich Rice: like where it says writing an annotated bib
    Janie Santoy: I dont get right click > paude
    Janie Santoy: pause
    Rich Rice: ah, maybe it has to be in full screen mode first
    Rich Rice: do this.
    Janie Santoy: I get show video, video screen
    Rich Rice: on the vid, to an alt-enter
    Rich Rice: should make it full screen
    Rich Rice: then you have the right-click pause
    Janie Santoy: I get it now
    Janie Santoy: ok, it works
    Rich Rice: and pause button at bottom
    Rich Rice: I don't think you can tag to auto-open full-screen through html
    Janie Santoy: another question...
    Rich Rice: sure
    Janie Santoy: I'm thinking about working on a microstudy concerning video
    Janie Santoy: read an article about cinematography techniques applied to tech comm
    Janie Santoy: published last year sometime
    Janie Santoy: anyway...
    Janie Santoy: one technique is pacing
    Rich Rice: ah, would love to read that
    Janie Santoy: author claims pacing helps viewer to understand what is important
    Rich Rice: nods
    Rich Rice: that would make sense
    Janie Santoy: the longer something stays on the screen the more importnat it becomes in viewers mind
    Rich Rice: you've slowed down a lot, btw
    Janie Santoy: makes sense intuitively
    Janie Santoy: but no evidence to support his claim
    Janie Santoy: at least not in his article
    Rich Rice: might look to mass comm for that
    Rich Rice: tv-newscasting
    Rich Rice: look at sage publishers
    Rich Rice: they have a lot of mass comm
    Janie Santoy: so I wonder how it would work in a short instructional video
    Rich Rice: well, one thing I've notices
    Rich Rice: noticed
    Rich Rice: is
    Rich Rice: you include ppts with bullets that populate as you talk
    Rich Rice: another strategy would be like what I do
    Rich Rice: put three bullets up and talk about all at once
    Rich Rice: longer on screen
    Rich Rice: not sure which is more effective
    Janie Santoy: but then viewer is reading and not paying attention to what you are saying
    Janie Santoy: that would be my hypothesis : )
    Janie Santoy: I know I don't know either
    Rich Rice: nods; very well could be--I think there's logic in your approach
    Janie Santoy: I'm trying both
    Janie Santoy: but have no idea which one is better
    Rich Rice: I think repetition is useful too
    Rich Rice: or bold the MAIN word in each line
    Rich Rice: then repeat the one word later
    Rich Rice: MAIN
    Rich Rice: right?
    Janie Santoy: yes, but those are rhetorical strategies
    Janie Santoy: I wonder about pacing
    Janie Santoy: to concentrate on that for microstudy
    Rich Rice: yeah, that'd be interesting
    Janie Santoy: what do you think?
    Janie Santoy: my concern then...
    Rich Rice: you'd have to create two different videos, and then question viewers on retention
    Rich Rice: maybe immediately after, and maybe a week or a month after
    Rich Rice: making sure they only watch the vid once
    Rich Rice: would be interesting
    Janie Santoy: only have two weeks for this; lets not get too ambitious here
    Rich Rice:
    Rich Rice: certainly there are studies
    Rich Rice: look up "pacing in the shooting and editing of a television news story"
    Rich Rice: http://www.sjmc.umn.edu/undergrads/courses/jour3451.html
    Rich Rice: "video pacing"
    Janie Santoy: I'm wondering about content; how to test retention based on pacing and not previous knowledge
    Janie Santoy: that is going to be difficult
    Rich Rice: well, you'd have to randomly select a good number of participants
    Rich Rice: to statistically justify
    Rich Rice: equal previous knowledge
    Rich Rice: another related thing here...
    Rich Rice: including music
    Rich Rice: that climaxes or paces with the content
    Rich Rice: so, the main bullet comes in right when a good part in the music comes up
    Rich Rice: might help memory
    Rich Rice: mnemonic
    Janie Santoy: but what do you consider "good"
    Rich Rice: that's relative I suppose, but maybe a shift from relatively silent to loud, vice-versa, maybe the chorus (people remember choruses, so maybe they'll associate the content with the chorus)
    Janie Santoy: I'm trying to keep it simple
    Janie Santoy: trying to remember your motto
    Rich Rice: indeed
    Rich Rice: yeah, these are theoreticals for now
    Janie Santoy: For next week, I'd like to return to the UDL principles
    Janie Santoy: I included a blog post on the scaffolding that I am trying to build in to the lessons
    Janie Santoy: units
    Rich Rice: exciting
    Rich Rice: yeah, that's good thinking, Janie
    Janie Santoy: and then of the course the videos are based on the UDL principles
    Janie Santoy: but not sure if I should be doing more with that
    Janie Santoy: maybe stuff I haven't considered yet
    Rich Rice: k, up to you. I see this whole process as a venture into new territory
    Rich Rice: if you've ventured down a path, probably better to find new paths, too, rather than keep refining the one path
    Rich Rice: that will come with the more you teach the course
    Rich Rice: okay, I'll save the chat in one of your blog posts.
    Janie Santoy: thanks

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  2. Janie,

    My eyes are drawn immediately to the animated graphic. Typically, animated graphics aren’t so good. Get old, quick. There are elements of business on your page that could be simplified…but part of that is WebCT’s “look.” Another strategy would be a pop-up, perhaps, like a special Share What You Know screen that pops up when you access the main page. But, it works. You know me; I think there’s a level of informally that should be there. Enticing. Makes you human as an online teacher. I like your grammar resources, the reading resources, and the media resources; good distinction between types.

    - Streaming mp3 is the same concept as streaming wmv; it downloads while it plays, shortening the appearance of download time. Won’t work on our server unless you make the mp3 a wmv, which is easy enough to do. You can have audio without video. If the mp3s are large, streaming is better. If under, say, a meg or maybe even two, if students have high speed, not really a problem to download regularly. Might embed sounds, too, in webpages. That is, look up [embed]. You can get a mp3 loading as someone accesses a page, then when he/she wants to play it, it’s half-way downloaded. The play bar is done with embed. Don’t need a graphic—built in to HTML.

    - Size of screen can be done with javascript and/or CSS. Your link might look like this:


    [a href="javascript:open_window('blog1.htm')"]blog-1[/a]


    Then, also, toward the top of your page in [HEAD], you need something like this:


    [SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript"]
    function open_window(url) {
    mywin = window.open(url,"PinViewer",'toolbar=0,location=0,directories=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,width=400,height=300');
    }
    [/SCRIPT]


    You see the width and height tags.

    Rich

    ________________________________________
    From: Santoy, Janie
    Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:38 PM
    To: Rice, R
    Subject: Trying something

    Hi,

    In the spirit of moving forward (maybe just a bit), I worked on something today.

    http://www.janiesantoy.com/CompositionI/Unit1/Unit1_2ShareWhatYouKnow.html

    I'm sure you won't miss the addition.

    1. What is the difference between a streaming mp3 and one which isn't? I guess my real question is what is better? I plan on these to be short; maybe a minute or so.

    2. How can I get the new window to open smaller? I would like to not get a new window at all, but to stay on the page so the student can follow along but if not possible, a small window would be less intrusive.

    What I would really like is to have a play/pause/stop button on the page (instead of the lecturing teacher). THe key is for the mp3 to load and play without going into the new page.

    I have also seen pages that have a play-bar (don't know what the correct term is) that moves as the audio file is playing.

    3. What do you think? Can you help me design that on the page? I tried to find free art which I could associate with the sound and this is what I found so far.

    THe talking teacher is cute (whimsy never hurt anyone), but I don't think it goes with the formality of the rest of the page.

    I'd like to hear your ideas.

    Thanks.

    Janie

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